Comments on: Toni Geyelin: Give Madoff Some Cellmates http://womensvoicesforchange.org/toni-geyelin-give-madoff-some-cellmates.htm Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:40:09 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Robert A Scribner http://womensvoicesforchange.org/toni-geyelin-give-madoff-some-cellmates.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5908 Robert A Scribner Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:10:19 +0000 http://womensvoicesforchange.org/?p=7568#comment-5908 Madoff and associates perpetuated the gratest disaster on the people of the United States sence the 2nd World war . If this criminality is not thoroughly and competently investigated recognised and the systemic faults corrected, the US is doomed to be continusly flushed down the economic toilet by similar wolves in seeps clothing . I t is a sad comment on our developement, as an example to the world ,if this is not put right. I was wondering whare did Mrs.Madoffs two million she it seems was allowed to keep, come from ???Was it criminally aquired also?Just a thaught . Madoff and associates perpetuated the gratest disaster on the people of the United States sence the 2nd World war . If this criminality is not thoroughly and competently investigated recognised and the systemic faults corrected, the US is doomed to be continusly flushed down the economic toilet by similar wolves in seeps clothing .
I t is a sad comment on our developement, as an example to the world ,if this is not put right.
I was wondering whare did Mrs.Madoffs two million she it seems was allowed to keep, come from ???Was it criminally aquired also?Just a thaught .

]]> By: Michael http://womensvoicesforchange.org/toni-geyelin-give-madoff-some-cellmates.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5906 Michael Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:52:37 +0000 http://womensvoicesforchange.org/?p=7568#comment-5906 Am I reading this right? Are each of your bullet points groups you think belong in jail also? #1) The fund managers certainly deserve some kind of punishment. I don't have the expertise to know what specific laws were broken. If any were they should get the maximum sentence and/or applicable fine. Even if no laws were broken their reputations should be tarnished enough that their investor base and thus income will go down. #2) Just because someone was naive enough to put all their eggs in one basket does not mean they should be in jail for doing so. It is not a crime to be stupid or naive. They've lost their money, and that is their punishment. #3) I don't believe conflicts of interest can result in jail time. I agree it wasn't a smart thing to do, but then maybe hindsight is 20/20. Am I reading this right? Are each of your bullet points groups you think belong in jail also?

#1) The fund managers certainly deserve some kind of punishment. I don’t have the expertise to know what specific laws were broken. If any were they should get the maximum sentence and/or applicable fine. Even if no laws were broken their reputations should be tarnished enough that their investor base and thus income will go down.

#2) Just because someone was naive enough to put all their eggs in one basket does not mean they should be in jail for doing so. It is not a crime to be stupid or naive. They’ve lost their money, and that is their punishment.

#3) I don’t believe conflicts of interest can result in jail time. I agree it wasn’t a smart thing to do, but then maybe hindsight is 20/20.

]]> By: Pat http://womensvoicesforchange.org/toni-geyelin-give-madoff-some-cellmates.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5761 Pat Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:58:41 +0000 http://womensvoicesforchange.org/?p=7568#comment-5761 Lest we forget, Madoff also had any number of attorneys approve those documents before the SEC that aided in the hoax as legal, and honest. Negligence is one thing, but doesn't the regulatory market demand more of the attorneys who vouch for the Madoff's of the world? Lest we forget, Madoff also had any number of attorneys approve those documents before the SEC that aided in the hoax as legal, and honest.

Negligence is one thing, but doesn’t the regulatory market demand more of the attorneys who vouch for the Madoff’s of the world?

]]> By: Duke http://womensvoicesforchange.org/toni-geyelin-give-madoff-some-cellmates.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5716 Duke Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:47:22 +0000 http://womensvoicesforchange.org/?p=7568#comment-5716 I think Bernie should be with general population in a maximum security prison. He needs to be around people he never associated with while he was swindiling money from investors. People like burglers, pickpockets, drugies, up to rapists and murderers. He needs to be set an example of to other Ponzi scheme operators. I think Bernie should be with general population in a maximum security prison. He needs to be around people he never associated with while he was swindiling money from investors. People like burglers, pickpockets, drugies, up to rapists and murderers. He needs to be set an example of to other Ponzi scheme operators.

]]> By: Ron Weaver http://womensvoicesforchange.org/toni-geyelin-give-madoff-some-cellmates.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5674 Ron Weaver Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:31:46 +0000 http://womensvoicesforchange.org/?p=7568#comment-5674 Over-reacting to problems that existed in the past could be even more anti-productive. Laws exist today that could have been used and prevented most of the abuses that caused the financial situation for many people. Some of the problems have already been solved by what already happened , people being more cautious in the future. Radical change has political motives. Let us use some common sense and fix what we have instead of entirely changing our system that has in the past made our country great. Bigger government is not the answer, nor is no enforcement or no regulations. Over-reacting to problems that existed in the past could be even more anti-productive. Laws exist today that could have been used and prevented most of the abuses that caused the financial situation for many people. Some of the problems have already been solved by what already happened , people being more cautious in the future. Radical change has political motives. Let us use some common sense and fix what we have instead of entirely changing our system that has in the past made our country great. Bigger government is not the answer, nor is no enforcement or no regulations.

]]> By: Alexandra MacAaron http://womensvoicesforchange.org/toni-geyelin-give-madoff-some-cellmates.htm/comment-page-1#comment-5543 Alexandra MacAaron Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:21:22 +0000 http://womensvoicesforchange.org/?p=7568#comment-5543 Agreed! And I would go even further. There are many people in this country who have enjoyed the fruits of no labor. Why should we expect to pay less for more when as a nation our greatest talent seems to be consumerism? In his inaugural address, President Obama said, "Our economy is badly weakened, a consequence of greed and irresponsibility on the part of some, but also our collective failure to make hard choices and prepare the nation for a new age." It is time for some hard choices. Agreed! And I would go even further. There are many people in this country who have enjoyed the fruits of no labor. Why should we expect to pay less for more when as a nation our greatest talent seems to be consumerism?

In his inaugural address, President Obama said, “Our economy is badly weakened, a consequence of greed and irresponsibility on the part of some, but also our collective failure to make hard choices and prepare the nation for a new age.”

It is time for some hard choices.

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